From:  "vgd1967" <vgd1967@indiatimes.com>
Date:  Thu Jul 15, 2004  10:59 pm
Subject:  The Entrapment Meeting - 1

This mail is about the meeting that took place at the Humsafar Drop-In Centre
last Sunday, 11/7, on the growing problem of entrapment of queer people for
profit.

Anyone who's been part of the community for a while knows what a serious problem
this is - and also how peculiarly hard it is to do anything about it. Having
this meeting didn't change things - and I don't think anyone was expecting it
would - but at least it gave us a chance to discuss the subject and see what, if
anything, were our options in tackling it. We know that talking may not result
in solutions - but we also know that not talking definitely won't.

I'd first like to thank Nitin for readily agreeing to have this discussion at
one of the Centre's Sunday High meets, and also to everyone who landed up there
on a Sunday evening. We started off just by sharing stories and looking at all
the different ways in which entrapment happens. Broadly, I think you could
classify them like this (but please, this mail is also meant to stimulate
discussion and get more stories, so if you have anything to add, write in):

(Brief note: by hustler here I mean someone who entraps gay guys, usually by
luring them for sex, which he may or may not indicate is to be paid for. I
acknowledge that there are many honest hustlers who are doing sex work for pay
without trying to take advantage of the situation, and this discussion does not
relate to them. The issue here is the entrapment, not the sex work).

1) The hustler who lures you on and then, often without anything happening, just
turns on you and threatens you because you're gay. Says what you're doing is
wrong and demands or just takes your money.

2) The hustler who's part of a gang. He lures you to an apparently safe place
and when you're there the gang members converge and either just mug you and take
your valuables, or threaten you because you're gay. They may threaten to take
you to the police unless you hand over your money. (Sometimes they claim the guy
who lures you is also doing wrong things - and that you made him do it.
Otherwise the guy takes the lead in threatening you). A prime place for this is
Churchgate station and the place they take you is those B,C and D roads that
lead from the station to Marine Drive.

3) The hustler who follows you home or to work. Sometimes its after a genuine
sexual encounter, sometimes after an encounter like the one above. They threaten
to out you or report you and try to blackmail you over time. And they often
succeed - one person we know paid out over Rs1 lakh over three years, before he
finally got the guts to put an end to it by telling the guy to do his worst. Of
course, the hustler then disappeared.

4) The hustler who gets you to take him home, and then he refuses to leave. He
threatens to create a commotion, sometimes takes off his clothes so you can't
force him out and generally creates a scene till you give him money - or
sometimes he just takes things and leaves.

5) The hustler who pretends to be a police officer. Often, of course, he's not
and in that case its possible to persuade a real police guy, if you're willing
to try enlisting them, to book her or just bash him up for just doing that. The
police don't like people pretending to be there - especially if that person is
making profits they could...

I DON'T want to imply that all policemen are crooks, in fact, I think there are
many fundamentally or mostly decent guys and there are ways of dealing with them
(perhaps Ashok could give tips?) But its evident that there are some really bad
cops - and by bad here I mean not just guys who beat up queer people, but the
ones who try to exploit them for money.

So these guys might be hand in glove with the hustlers of the type described
earlier. Sometimes they might be doing this on their own - just using their
uniform to scare you. Sometimes they are willing to take you into the station,
quite officially, and then see how much you will give.

Abhijeet from the Humsafar Centre told us about being called from Bombay Central
station by a guy who had been trapped by them and who didn't dare to turn to
anyone else. He spoke to the cop in charge, who was quite open about wanting the
money - he wanted a lakh. Since the victim refused to come out, all Abhijeet
could do was plead with the cop to be lenient and finally the guy was allowed to
go after paying - not a lakh, but still plenty.

OK, going out on a limb now. I do not usually believe in giving names or numbers
of suspected blackmailers, since what proof do you have, but one name cropped up
across several stories - a Salim who seems to operate in the Nagpada-Bombay
Central area. This Salim does seem to be a police guy, or to have good police
connections.

A friend of mine tried to surprise him by calling him up (from a cell phone) and
saying he knew what he (Salim) did. He got a volley of abuse and the threat that
in just an hour he (my friend) would get a call from the police. And in an hour,
a call came from a number that we called back later - and the voice picking it
up (not Salim's) said Nagpada police station. My friend dodged the question, but
it shows that Salim is either a cop or has good connections - as a friend
pointed out cynically, where has one ever heard of a Bombay cop getting cracking
on a complaint in just an hour?!

6) Hustlers who target tourists. This is like (4) and it works ever better as
tourists usually have rooms nearby they can take the guy too. And most tourists
are unaware of or scared of how the police in India work, so its easy for the
hustler to get the tourist into a compromising position - like have him take his
clothes off - and then claim to be a cop and that what he's doing is illegal.
The sums of money that can get taken are not small.

7) Hustlers on the Net. People have been trying to use the Net to blackmail
other guys for a while. Arshad told us about encountering this Salim on chat,
where he pretended it was regular cruising. He asked Arshad for his number and
the moment he got it, called him up and said he was a cop and was going to get
Arshad because he was gay, unless he paid up. Arshad is out and not likely to
get intimidated by someone threatening him just because he was gay, so he
refused to listen and that was the last he heard of Salim.

But not everyone is like that and the Net unfortunately is the ideal place to
meet scared and closeted gay guys, because many of them are too nervous to come
to a gay gathering or a party. Yet by avoiding those risks, they lay themselves
open to this much larger risk, of hustlers who know how they feel and how they -
the hustlers - can work on this to blackmail them.

The scam that is currently going on is particularly smart. A guy is chatting on
Indiatimes or Yahoo or wherever and meets another guy who seems quite ordinary,
like most of the other guys on those chat sites. They chat and at some point Guy
2 asks Guy 1 if he has any porn VCDs. If Guy 1 says yes then he proposes an
exchange and of course Guy 1 is quite happy to get some new porn in this
relatively easy way.

They set up to meet near Dadar Station (in the cases we have heard) and Guy 2
takes Guy 1's VCDs. He tells Guy 1 that he lives close by and he just wants to
go home to check if the VCDs work. He's gone a bit, and Guy 1 calls on his cell
and Guy 2 says he's just coming. He comes down with some VCDs and just when they
have done the exchange, someone else comes and catches both of them from behind.

This guy, Scamster 1 says he's a plainclothes cop and he's caught them doing
something illegal and its not just porn, but gay porn. He takes them both to a
lane nearby and sits them in front of a sugarcane juice vendor (who's clearly in
on this). He tells them there's a police station round the corner and he sends
an accomplice to get the Inspector.

A guy, Scamster 2 lands up in a police inspector's uniform. Perhaps he really is
one. He's much more rude and threatening than Scamster 1. He abuses Guy 1, calls
him gandu, hits him a bit, threatens him of how he can put him straight in jail
and in general does a good job of scaring the shit out of Guy 1. Guy 2 meanwhile
is just sitting quietly by the side and sits there like that right through.

Scamster 2 asks for one lakh (these guys have got set rates!). Guy 1 says he
can't pay that much, tells them to take what he has. The scamsters do that of
course, but still want more. In one case they got Guy 1 to call a friend to
bring more money which, in addition to the watch and gold chain and ring they
took, got their haul up to almost Rs30,000. And just as a final touch they take
Guy 1's name and address and say they'll be in touch...

This particular scam is something recent and we've heard more than one such
story in the same week. As people at the meeting pointed out, it is really quite
a smart scam because b by basing it around gay porn VCDs they ensure they catch
the victim with actual proof of his 'crime'. Porn is illegal, and because its
gay its doubly illegal (and just for good measure, in one case the cops even
started talking about copyright violation - which would be a historic first time
that they have given a fuck for all the blatent copyright violation that happens
everywhere in Bombay!)

So the VCD scam gets people with proof, it gets the closeted guys and it gets
them on the Net where they are least expecting it. Its almost like a perfect
crime - "are you sure you want to publicise this?" someone asked at the meeting.
"You might just give many more people ideas!" And if they are making upto
Rs30,000 a hit and if its not their only hit in a week, this is all clearly way
too profitable a business. Don't lets assume this particular bunch can easily be
persuaded or scared into dropping the entrapment.

More on the meeting in my next mail. In the meantime, if guys want to write in
with comments on these stories or share their own ot those of their friends,
PLEASE do so. We want as many stories and as much information as possible.

Vikram

From:  "vgd1967" <vgd1967@indiatimes.com>
Date:  Fri Jul 16, 2004  5:28 pm
Subject:  The Entrapment Meeting - 2

I don't have time today to write about the second half of our meeting on
Entrapment at the Humsafar Centre last Sunday, but here's an example of how its
already produced results. We'd decided at the meeting that one of the few things
we could do was to make sure the subject got covered in the media and here's a
report on it from today's Times of India. Many thanks to Neil Pate for writing
such a good report.

I just spoke to Neil in the Times and he says the really interesting part was
the conversation he had with the joint commissioner of police (crime) Dr
Satyapal Singh on the subject. He told me the chief crime reporter at the Times
had told him that Dr.Singh rarely speaks to the Press so it would be a waste of
his time to try on this issue.

Neil went ahead though and happily Dr.Singh agreed to speak to him on this. Even
better was what he said. There was no ambiguity about it, he said, gays and
lesbians were also citizens of this country and there was no reason that they
should be subject to blackmail and extortion. The police was bound to help them
and all they had to do was file a complaint at the nearest police station.

To hear this from a policeman as senior as this is really something and proof
that the police as a whole is not the sort of corrupt and violent organisation
we fear. Yes, I realise that your local police station might seem a far and
scary place from the police commissioner's office, but to know that officially
they are bound to help you is still something.

The problem is will the people that entrapment happens to get in touch with the
police? That was the real weak point we found in this whole entrapment issue.
More on that tomorrow,

Vikram



Blackmailers give gays, lesbians a hard time
NEIL PATE

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, JULY 16, 2004 12:09:48 AM ]

MUMBAI: It's an unfortunate side-effect of the increasing visibility of gays and
lesbians in Mumbai. According to gay activists, the last one month has seen over
a dozen members of the community being mugged by blackmailers who threaten
tomake their sexual preference public.

However, victims, fearing social ostracism and the prospect of being charged
under Section 377 (unnatural offences) of the IPC, have refrained from making
police complaints.

The blackmail brigade's modus operandi is simple. It networks with gays through
cruising sites or internet chat rooms andmobile phones, fixes meetings, and then
extorts money. Some of the blackmailer-infested areas in the city are Churchgate
station, Bandra Bandstand, Dadar railway station, Khar and Andheri station.

A fortnight ago, Jitesh, a gay college youth, was badly bashed up and robbed of
his wristwatch, mobile phone, CDplayer and wallet near the Gateway of India.
&#8220;They took my college identity card and threatened to tell my teacher and
parents about my sexuality. I lost a total of Rs 20,000,'' says a petrified
Jitesh.

In another incident, Ganesh, a gay senior executive of a television channel, was
mugged at Churchgate station. &#8220;I was waiting for the train, when two
decentlooking boys suddenly grabbed me by the hand and started demanding money.
They accused me of having sex with them,'' says Ganesh.

The charges were false, but to avoid public humiliation and the fear of being
outed to his family, Ganesh handed over his wristwatch and Rs 500 to the
hustlers.

The Humsafar Trust, a gay support group, offers counselling and legal aid to
traumatised victims at its inhouse crisis management cell. &#8220;In the last
month, we received two rescue calls from victims,'' says Abhijit, an outreach
manager with the trust. &#8220;But when we ask victims to register a police
complaint, they back out.''

The NGO has for three years been conducting a sensitisation programme with the
Mumbai police on problems faced by the sexually marginalised. &#8220;The police
have been very sensitive and co-operative but the plague of blackmailers and
hustlers still exists,'' says Abhijit.

When contacted, joint commissioner of police (crime) Dr Satyapal Singh says the
police will taken stern action against extortionists. &#8220;We do not
discriminate against gays and lesbians,' he declares. &#8220;They too are
citizens of the country, and we will protect them. All they have to do is
register a complaint at the nearest police station.''

Says Joel, a victim of extortion, &#8220;In a country where homosexuality is
outlawed, being gay or lesbian is as good as being an outcast. With no rights or
recourse to justice, and with rampant sexual discrimination, gays go through
depression, low self-esteem and even commit suicide.''

(Names of interviewees have been changed to protect identity.)

Helpline numbers

Humsafar Trust : 26673800/266505
Humjinsi : 23435700/
Aanchal: 23522787


What are the cases we're talking about? : The gang that hangs around Churchgate
station trying to pick up guys they can mug in the dark alleys of C & D roads.
The gang that hangs around the walls, looking for foreign gay men who they can
dupe into taking them back to their rooms where they will pretend to be
policemen and try and extort as much as they can from the foreigners. The guy
who both mugged a gay man, and then followed him home and blackmailed him for
three years ultimately taking more than one lakh rupees. The gang who beat up
young gay men at Charni Road, Andheri, Bandra, Khar and so many other places,
stealing their posessions and traumatising them for life. The gang that's now
moved onto the Net, coming up with an efficient way of trapping more young and
closeted gay guys. The gang who... but you can probably fill your own stories
when you come.


Why now? : This problem has existed for years and, its been pointed out, there
are periodic outbursts of indignation from the community, and then we all
subside into apathy again. And I don't think we should underestimate the problem
- its not easy seeing what we can do in such circumstances, so we may very well
end up nowhere again. But I don't think we've ever had an open meeting where we
try to involve as many people as possible, both from within the community and
people outside it, but who might be able to help, and its worth trying.


Also, the problem seems to be on an upswing, perhaps as more blackmailers
realise the potential it offers. As homosexuality becomes more visible, and more
queer people start interacting with each other, there will also be people who
want to take advantage of this. From the stories we are hearing, its evidently
very good business, so we can expect to see more people getting in on it. There
also seems increasing evidence that members of the police might play a part.


Most recently its become clear that blackmailers have started using the
Internet. In the last week alone we have heard of two cases with the same modus
operandi - contacts made on chat, meetings fixed up to exchange porn VCDs, then
when the exchange is happening (near the Dadar station) a so-called plain
clothes policeman comes and grabs both guys and proceeds to extract as much as
possible from the victim (nothing happens to the other guy who is obviously the
decoy).


Some information is available about the people involved in this and hopefully
some of the guys affected by this scam will come to the meetings, so we will
have an immediate opportunity to decide if anything can be done. At the very
least, we can figure out how to publicise cases like this to prevent other
people being trapped.


Why bother? : Some people argue that these attacks mostly target closetted gay
men, and that they succeed simply because these men are too closetted to fight
back. So the solution is to come out, and anyone who doesn't deserves what they
get.


The solution is probably the right one, but it would be callous to write off
everyone who can't take it. Many of the people being targetted are young and
taking their first steps into the gay world. When this happens to them, it
scares them so badly that they may never come out, even if they might have
wanted to. The psychological damage can be severe. These attacks are perhaps the
most direct form of homophobia we encounter and in that alone they are worth
taking up.


There's also one other point. We are often asked by well-meaning people, why we
need to protest for gay rights. They ask, why not just be quiet and lead your
lives in private? These blackmailing attacks seem to me the best response why.
The people these attacks have happened to are often the very ones really willing
to be quiet and non-confrontational - and that is exactly why they are
targetted.


And if they want to do something about it, they can't because the police - even
assuming there's no collusion on their part - would say they deserved what they
got because what they were doing was illegal in the first place. The police
might even harass them for that, forgetting that they are the injured party.
More than anything it seems to me these attacks show the need why we have to
fight for decriminalising consensual adult homosexuality, and that's why we need
to record and publicise cases like these.

 

From:  "coffebeans2002" <coffebeans2002@yahoo.co.in>
Date:  Mon Jul 12, 2004  1:40 pm
Subject:  Entrapment and dealing with hustlers/cheaters/robbers/ blackmailers from the net

Hi All


Some days back, a person on this group has posted an email about how
he was trapped in Dadar by a person while exchanging porn cds.
Apparently, there have been many more cases in Dadar, all of them
having to pay their way out.

One keeps on hearing of such cases at Churchgate station Loo, Bandra
Station Platform No 1, Andheri Station Loo. In Delhi, CP park,
Chankyapuri Nehru park were infamous for cheaters

Yesterday, Humsafar and GB had an excellent meeting on the issue and
I am sure that someone will post an email on the proceedings soon.
But till then, here are some precautions to be taken if you are
meeting strangers whom you have befriended on the net. I have
researched the info from net

-----------------------------------------------------

Online dating can lead to off-line friendship, Love and even
marriage. Exchanging written correspondence, is a great way to build
loving, trusting relationships. However, you could expose yourself
to the risk of physical harm if you proceed without caution. You
wouldn't give a stranger on the street your name, address and
telephone number.. don't do it on-line! Protect yourself with the
following common sense guidelines, and enjoy the start of what might
become a very beautiful friendship.

Remain Anonymous
Don't give anyone online your real e.mail address, last name, phone
number, address or place of work during your early correspondence.
Stop communicating with anyone who tries to pressure you into giving
this information. Check with your ISP server and make sure that your
Online Profile does not give out more personal information than you
are comfortable with

Don't allow yourself to be pressured into meeting anyone. If they
threaten to terminate online correspondence if you don't meet them
within a certain time frame, end your online connection. Nice people
don't make threats or put pressure on people they care about.
When you do decide to meet someone whose company you enjoy online,
meet in a public place and bring your friends. Your online buddy
will understand and accomodate your wishes if they are honest about
their intentions towards you. If during the date, you decide to go
somewhere else, use your own car.

Don't agree to hiking dates or meetings in remote areas until you
know someone very well. Plan a short initial meeting. If, on
meeting, you know you won't be seeing this person again, sharing
coffee and a little polite chat won't be as painful as spending a
long day together.

Keep the date light-hearted and fun and leave as originally
scheduled. Answer honestly if asked whether you'd like to get
together again. Tell your friends and family where you are going,
with whom, and arrange to check in with them at a specified time
during the date and again when you arrive home.

If you travel to meet your on-line Love, make your own hotel and car
reservations and don't give out the name of your hotel. Drive
yourself to the hotel,or take a taxi. Follow all of the
recommendations above about meeting someone for the first time.
Provide your family or friends with necessary contact information.

Getting out of Trouble
=============================================
If you start feeling unsure or uncomfortable about your date,
politely extricate yourself from the situation. Excuse yourself and
leave by the back door if necessary. Do not hesitate to ask for help
from persons nearby, call your family, friends or the police if you
feel the situation warrants. Trust your judgement and don't be
afraid of potential embarrassment. It is better to be embarrassed
than physically hurt.

If you follow all of the previous recommendations, you will feel
safe and enjoy your on-line dating experience to the fullest! Be
happy, find Love!

First Meeting Safety
• Always Meet in a Public Place! Don't even agree that the
parking lot is a good idea, you have NO protection from anything in
a parking lot and no, your car is NOT safe! You can be easily
overpowered, you don't know if other cars in the parking lot are
safe and nobody from within can see you.
• Always Tell a Friend or Relative where you will be and write
that information down!
• Never allow yourself to be picked up for the first meeting.
If you don't own transportation, get a ride from a friend, take a
cab, or bus. Do not become a statistic! It is NEVER SAFE to leave
your home with a total stranger or to give a total stranger your
address. If you plan on drinking, get a ride from a friend though I
would strongly advise against becoming inebriated in the presence of
someone who is, basically, a stranger to you.
• Never leave your purse unattended, even if the person you
are meeting tells you they will watch it for you. Contained within
your purse or whatever you carry is not only the obvious personal
information, but your car and house keys. You may not notice they're
gone.
• NEVER EVER leave your drink on the bar! If you have to go to
the bathroom, or leave for whatever reason, take your drink with
you. If that is not possible, dump it out! Order a fresh one when
you return. Rophynol is not the only drug you need to be concerned
about, homemade knockout drops are very vogue now! Be safe, be
smart, be aware.. Remember, knowledge is power, forewarned is
forearmed.
• If possible, get a cellular phone. Even if everything goes
great, and I really hope it does, what if the unthinkable were to
happen and you were followed home? Lock the car, don't open it for
ANY reason unless you see red lights in your rear view and even
then, only open that window about an inch. The cell phone is your
friend. You don't even have to have good credit to get one now.
• As an aside, it was recently demonstrated that Cranberry
Juice has somewhat of a antidotal effect on drugs like Rophynol.
While it cannot prevent you from becoming unconscious, it does allow
you to retain some memory of the events. I don't know the specifics,
but it doesn't hurt to drink some before you go out, or order a
drink that contains it.
• Be very aware of your surroundings! Memorize important
landmarks such as where the telephone is, park in well lit areas,
and ask someone to walk you to your car in the event the meeting
does not go as well as you had hoped. You only have one life,
protect it!




 

From:  sahil khan <sahil16a@yahoo.com>
Date:  Mon Jul 12, 2004  2:43 pm
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] Entrapment and dealing with hustlers/cheaters/robbers/ blackmailers from the net

My GOODness, All my applause & a BIG THANKS to the below help given by Mr
Coffebeans.

Wish we all co-operate & ACT as said below.

Hope all goes fine with my frends here & wish to see a happy fearless GAY world
around us.

regards,
SAHIL.

 

From:  Lal Ganderi <lalganderi@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:  Wed Jul 21, 2004  2:06 pm
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] Entrapment and dealing with hustlers/cheaters/robbers/ blackmailers from the net

Hello!

 

very interesting piece. i hv been in and out of gay lifestyle and have met many a boys, who dont follow these precautions. i hv tried helping them, but in the end, i end up loosing them ! silly isnt it ? neverthless, i did my best till now. with age catching up now i adv no more coz then i might sound like "the old man" they all r running away fm. but u hv posted  a great piece of adv indeed. i urge all "real genuine gays" to follow it.

 

many a confusions hv boarded our society esp in india. we hv the "bi" and "gay" community who go out with "real gays" coz they dont hv access to gals. nothing new, but of late with the advent of net they have started meeting "real gays". in such meetings there is a lot of psychological stress... will talk abt this some other time.

 

 back to safety and blackmailing...boys think its easy to make a quick buck going out for "one shot". poor lads dont kno in a long run this quick buck may end up into their hving the troubles you mention. try to adv the boys to refrain fm hving sex for money.

 =====================

 

to all who are ready to pay i wod adv "y pay when u get it free?". with me looks.... i m an alt ego of "the shrek", i hv me boys who luv me! so dont loose heart and stop paying the boys! help them - yeah, but cash -absolute nah

 

not being fm mmb whenever i m in mmb i wod go to voodos. it used to be a luvly place till the net arrived. now i c all sorts of ppl there. in a way its good coz in the past only the elite crowd frequented vodoos now the normal guys too r seen around. but then there is this risk of "cheaters". cant someone talk to the owner and soght out a solu to this prob ? i m really interested in knoing more abt this guy called shezad... is he the tall hunky kashmiri boy seen at the walls c/g stn and bandra ? or is he some new commer.

 

a word of caution - the adv which has been posted is great, but dont let ye morals go down. go out n hv funs... its not as bad as it seems... just dont be naive !!!

 

 

a few rules of thumb, practiced by me and can tell u guys for sure they never fail... they are quick and in situ solutions..common for both gals as well as guys...

 

1. try to talk to the person in eng, but let this not be a hitch as quite a few great boys dont speak eng. alt talk to them abt their edu n hobbies. professionals usually refrain fm talking to u on ne other matter. they wod do wptever u ask them to do, u take the lead they follow and then they strike !

 

2. belt, watch and shoes are the best things to note. clothes may be deceptive, but this three wod never lie abt the person. my own exp. i picked a professional inspite of the fact that i knew his shoes were giving me those cold shivers. its a tested cardinal.

 

3. as mentioned, if u feel uneasy or uncomfy just walk out... slowly and with all the grace... leave the battle like a defeated solider rather than a martyr... its not worth being a martyr ! ;O)

 

4. last but not the least trust ye instinct... if ye instinct says "bhagoo"... then so be it !

 

hv lots of funs n enjoy.... u hv but only 1 life make the best of it.

 

wish u all lots of luck n safe funs and sex !!!!!

 

 

Dhruv <bomboy78@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:  Tue Jul 13, 2004  6:09 am
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE

Hi Moderator,

Thanks for the wonderful information, and also i hope
in future we will be recieving such kind 0f news.

Re: [gay_bombay] places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE.

guys pls beaware on yahoo chat there is a guy who is 19 has linked himself with
the police and is laying trap on gay guys. there are almost 2 victims i know who
have already shelled in grands to move out of the poice station. he normally
calls people to meet at dadar station since he is linked with an officer in
matunga police station. this is really urgent may be all of u might be aware of
this story if not pls be cautious

 

From:  prem chandran <zulfy_2000@yahoo.com>
Date:  Wed Jul 14, 2004  10:52 am
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE.

thank you for the information.
id 2b watched for in yahoo is princeofwales2003,
itsmeya, name Rohit

From:  charles williams <omyfirstlove@yahoo.com>
Date:  Wed Jul 14, 2004  11:36 am
Subject:  places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE

 

THANKS

TO THE MODERATOR FOR SPREADING THIS NEWS IN OUR GB WORLD

THANKS TO ALL FRIENDS WHO R CONTRIBUTING FOR THIS IMP NEWS

ANS FOR THE MODERATOR,...... PLZ IF U CAN SEND THAT GUYS ID WHO IS 19 AND COLLING GUYS TO MATUNGA AND TRAPPING THEM

ITS BETTER IF WE HAVE THE ID THEN IT WONT BE A PROBLEM

THANKS ,

TO ALL FRIENDS FOR SPREADING THE WORD

 

From:  "Trust Me" <trustme_2000@hotmail.com>
Date:  Wed Jul 14, 2004  5:41 pm
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE.


Guysssss ,

Even my 2 friend lost around 20000/- in this...

Inspector name in Matunga station is Mr. Bhende and his associate name is
Salim.

Please Do something. Dont know how many guys lost how much....

There area is Dadar and Matunga ....becos Bhende is assocaited withMatunga
station so that guy calls us in these areas only.


 

From:  salil gupta <louganisforever2@yahoo.co.in>
Date:  Fri Jul 16, 2004  12:47 am
Subject:  Re: entrapment... BEWARE.

So what is the modus operandi?

where in dadar does this salim call people?

and how can you recognise him other than being 19 and on yahoo chat.

maybe he also operates somewhere in dadar (other than on the internet)

answers?

i shudder at the plight of victims.

 

From:  akash malhotra <shyguymum21in@yahoo.co.in>
Date:  Thu Jul 15, 2004  7:40 am
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] places in mumbai where entrapment is likely.. BEWARE.

Thanx for all this info!!!!!
Its really helpful.


Trust Me <trustme_2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

Guysssss ,

Even my 2 friend lost around 20000/- in this...

 

From:  "Trust Me" <trustme_2000@hotmail.com>
Date:  Thu Jul 22, 2004  10:10 am
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] Guys be Aware from COPs


That Dadar guy now started comming to HOMEs.

While chating he shows his cam very easily and then ask for the place and if
u syas yes.. He ask for a address of ur place ( if u give it directly then
u dead at the same time , or if u decide to meet then he comes and meets u
and then procced to ur place with u while his COP guys follows U).

Once he is in ur place then ur NIGHTMARE starts....

Now a days he chats with multiple IDs but "poor chap" shows cam fromt he
same place from where he chat..

For ur information , he sits in a BIG HALL with few Sofa chairs in
Background ...

So guys please be carefull.

If anyone ready to help and knows any "ANTI CURUPTION CELL" number in Police
then let me know. I have number of those COPS....

From:  "ASHOK ROWKAVI" <arowkavi@vsnl.in>
Date:  Fri Jul 23, 2004  10:21 am
Subject:  Re: [gay_bombay] Guys be Aware from COPs

Please give Abhijit at Humsafar Trust the numbers of the cops you have with
you and we'll follow it up. In fact we're already moving in ther matter and
some rather "important" guys are involved in this racket.
Abhijit's numbers at Humsafar are
2 665 0547 and 2 667 3800
Ashok Row Kavi

 

1